The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

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The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby Kira Kira » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:47 am

OK, so something that's been bothering me for a while is that, at the end of the chapter where Dio drops the road-roller on Joutarou and then realises Joutarou's stopped time, both he and Joutarou claim that Dio's time-stop limit is now 11 seconds and Joutarou stopped time at the 9th second, which is why Dio didn't realise Joutarou had already stopped time - their time stops overlapped.

But right at the beginning of the next chapter, Dio instead says that Joutarou stopped time "after I used up my 9 seconds", and JoJo 6251 state that Dio's time-stop reached a maximum of 9 seconds towards the end of Part 3.

So how long could Dio stop time before he was defeated? 9 seconds, or 11 seconds? Is this the quickest retcon in JoJo?
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Re: The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby jda95 » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:58 pm

Kira Kira wrote:Is this the quickest retcon in JoJo?


Yes.
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Re: The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby Nabu-san » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:17 am

No retcon.
Dio stops time for 9 seconds.
At 9 seconds Jotaro stops time.
Dio can move for 2 seconds without noticing.
At 11 he finally realizes.
Jotaro appears.
He notes that Dio's limit for moving in the stopped time is 11 seconds (while his limit for stopping time is 9 sec).
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Re: The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby Kira Kira » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:12 pm

Why would Dio's limit for moving in stopped time be 2 seconds longer than his limit for stopping time? That differentiation was never stated in the manga, so where does that notion come from?

Are you saying Dio was wrong about his original assertion that he could stop time for 11 seconds? And, if so, would that imply that Jotaro can move in stopped time for 7 seconds, since 5 (his limit for stopping time) + 2 = 7?
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Re: The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby Nabu-san » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:17 pm

Kira Kira wrote:Why would Dio's limit for moving in stopped time be 2 seconds longer than his limit for stopping time? That differentiation was never stated in the manga, so where does that notion come from?

Are you saying Dio was wrong about his original assertion that he could stop time for 11 seconds? And, if so, would that imply that Jotaro can move in stopped time for 7 seconds, since 5 (his limit for stopping time) + 2 = 7?


Because why not? Jotaro couldn't stop time but could still move for a second or two. Is the same thing impossible for Dio?
And yes I'm saying he's wrong. Characters can be wrong yes, surprise.
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Re: The discrepancy between Dio's time-stop limits

Postby Kira Kira » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:47 pm

Nabu-san wrote:
Kira Kira wrote:Why would Dio's limit for moving in stopped time be 2 seconds longer than his limit for stopping time? That differentiation was never stated in the manga, so where does that notion come from?

Are you saying Dio was wrong about his original assertion that he could stop time for 11 seconds? And, if so, would that imply that Jotaro can move in stopped time for 7 seconds, since 5 (his limit for stopping time) + 2 = 7?


Because why not? Jotaro couldn't stop time but could still move for a second or two. Is the same thing impossible for Dio?
And yes I'm saying he's wrong. Characters can be wrong yes, surprise.


Fair enough.
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