Regarding Okuyasu's father...

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Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Draconated » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:48 am

Keicho at least wanted his father to die, not so sure about Okuyasu, but if he wanted to kill his father so badly, why didn't he use the OP as fuck killing machine that is his brother's stand? The Hand should have been able to easily kill him, right?
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Badalight » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:45 am

The Hand doesn't kill, it simply warps things away - and they have no idea where the warped objects go.
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Postby G.A.G » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:29 am

The only one who could kill Okuyasu's father was Kira, but hey, he was the villain and got killed.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Draconated » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:47 pm

I actually forgot that it's stated he doesn't know where objects go, but one can assume it's similar to Cream, right? Or is he unlike Cream, and he just sends things as a whole wherever The Hand sends them? I seem to remember him sending a part of the ground away during the RHCP fight, so I'm going to guess he's like Cream, and could send someone's head away, leaving the body, which would kill most people. Okuyasu never actually transports anyone with his stand, does he? At least, not as far as we know.

What a mysterious stand.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Kaiser Mazoku » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:11 pm

Keicho wanted to be sure that his father was dead, and not just transported somewhere else.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Bleeborg » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:24 pm

The way that Cream and The Hand differ to my understanding is this.

Cream will send the things it targets into some unknown dark space (possibly inside the void of Cream itself) while The Hand is more like Kuma from One Piece and when it touches you it will just blast you away to some unknown location somewhere.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Draconated » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:26 pm

I'm surprised Okuyasu never tried using it on himself, although maybe he can't transport himself, that would make sense.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Bleeborg » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:30 pm

It;s just that his brain ain't too good.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby OtherGalaxy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:46 am

I never understood why Josuke didn't heal their father.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Badalight » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:51 pm

OtherGalaxy wrote:I never understood why Josuke didn't heal their father.


Because Josuke didn't know how the father originally looked. He has to know what state they were originally in to repair them.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby OtherGalaxy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:12 pm

They had photos of him though.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Badalight » Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:02 pm

I feel like restoring a person is a lot more complicated than that. He didn't know his father's personality or anything like that. A picture would not be enough at all.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Draconated » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:51 pm

Badalight wrote:I feel like restoring a person is a lot more complicated than that. He didn't know his father's personality or anything like that. A picture would not be enough at all.

Crazy Diamond doesn't work like that, see the Pearl Jam fight. He didn't know exactly what was in the dishes, yet he was still able to return them to their original ingredients, Pearl Jam included.

I think there was nothing to really fix, he wasn't "injured" or anything, this is just how his body is now, thanks to the bud of flesh.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby OtherGalaxy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:18 am

But Josuke did all sorts of things that weren't fixes, such as fusing a guy to a rock and a book. Turning their dad back to normal would fit his powerset more than either of those two examples.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby MetallicKaiser » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:45 am

Draconated wrote:I'm surprised Okuyasu never tried using it on himself, although maybe he can't transport himself, that would make sense.

Well removing the space in front of him to teleport is good enough lol. I'm also assuming since the hand cuts like a knife, only a part of the father would get teleported, and he'd probably insta regen, so there isn't really a point.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Badalight » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:57 pm

OtherGalaxy wrote:But Josuke did all sorts of things that weren't fixes, such as fusing a guy to a rock and a book. Turning their dad back to normal would fit his powerset more than either of those two examples.


Those had explanation though. He was able to turn the guy into a rock because at that moment he actually believed him to be a rock, or something like that.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby OtherGalaxy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:18 am

Then turning him back into a human should be similar. It's not like Josuke has to know the workings inside and out, as CD repaired a MotorCycle with utmost ease. His ability is basically to turn something back to how it was, or how he thinks it was.

Just seems like an odd lapse in the writing imo, especially for Araki.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Badalight » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:57 pm

But he turns it into what HE thinks it is, not necessarily what it is.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby Draconated » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:55 pm

Badalight wrote:But he turns it into what HE thinks it is, not necessarily what it is.

Again, see the Pearl Jam fight. If what you're saying is the case, Pearl Jam wouldn't have been in the food after 'restoring' the food.

Angelo and Enigma guy can be explained by Josuke being incredibly angry, resulting in the 'restoration' ending up being incorrect.
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Re: Regarding Okuyasu's father...

Postby SilverChariotRequiem » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:49 pm

OtherGalaxy wrote:I never understood why Josuke didn't heal their father.


Josuke can only heal brocken things, but Okuyasu's father isn't sick, he has absorbing the Dio's Cell and becoming immortal. So he already heal himself continually, and the problem is the regeneration is too powerfull and transform him into a flesh bag.

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